is he still a cope member i_letter am never sure about these things it was mbhazima shilowa during the time when he was the premier of the province now in this administration if we could rewind the clock of course we can’t but if we could we would certainly think three or four times about the advisability of proceeding with this very costly project which does not have a strong developmental character to it however it is there or part of it is there we have spent twenty billion rand we now have debt of twenty billion rand